In this episode of Mind Your Own Marketing Business, host Joe Barsness sits down with Ross Phernetton of Shinebox Agency for a candid conversation about the power of strategy, storytelling, and staying true to your creative point of view. Ross shares how an early career pivot from English major to agency leader shaped his path, and why Shinebox’s commitment to deep strategy and singular creative concepts has driven their success over 15 years. From moving into their new Minneapolis office to producing live-action films in a 48-hour challenge, Ross gives listeners an inside look at how Shinebox’s passion and culture fuel their work.

The discussion also dives into some of today’s hottest industry topics, including the hype around artificial intelligence and the risks of brands losing their authenticity in a world of misinformation. Ross explains why a beginner’s mindset and a clear, shared belief system are critical for brands hoping to build trust and stand out in the market. Tune in for valuable insights, inspiring stories, and a fresh perspective on what it takes to thrive in the ever-evolving marketing landscape.

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